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Article: 13125 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: sending files in-line through a telnet session
Date: 10 Jan 2002 09:39:37 -0500
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <a1j89o0pid@enews4.newsguy.com>,
those who know me have no need of my name <not-a-real-address@usa.net> wrote:
: <a1huc50mqf@enews3.newsguy.com> divulged:
:
: >it's too bad that kermit is not part of most standard distributions. I
: >think it's a licensing limitation.
:
: it was part of many distributions, but it's been slipping as the need for a
: file transfer mechanism other than http and terminal programs have been
: reduced by the current assumption of `internet connectedness and web
: ubiquity.'
:
Yes, the modern Internet and Web come with a lot of connectivity tools that
are easy to use. The tradeoff is, they are also labor-intensive and (for the
most part) low-function and inflexible. For example, most point-and-click
file transfer tools assume everything is Windows (or everything is Unix) and
do not account for the distinction between text and binary files, or the
record-format or character-set differences among platforms. They certainly
don't allow for execution -- much less automation -- of complex tasks such as
the ones listed (for example) here:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/iksd.html#x1
or towards the end of this page:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpscripts.html
or, more generally, here:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/scriptlib.html
While the number of people who are concerned with such things might be an
increasingly minor segment of the total population of computer users, it is
nevertheless an important one, as these are the people who put together the
packages, systems, and networks that the end users click on.
- Frank